{"id":13135,"date":"2018-06-06T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2018-06-06T04:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/shatontv.com\/westworld-thoughts-6\/"},"modified":"2022-07-06T01:03:28","modified_gmt":"2022-07-06T05:03:28","slug":"westworld-thoughts-6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-thoughts-6\/","title":{"rendered":"Westworld Thoughts"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><div id=\"attachment_10064\" style=\"width: 190px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"mailto:hosts@shatpod.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10064\" class=\"wp-image-10064 size-full\" src=\"\/tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/Westworld-Theories.jpg\" alt=\"Westworld Telegraph\" width=\"180\" height=\"122\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-10064\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Have a Theory? <a href=\"mailto:hosts@shatpod.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Share It Now!<\/a><\/strong><\/p><\/div> Hello,<\/p>\n<p>I love your guys&#8217; podcast and look forward to analyses of the show.<\/p>\n<p>One thing that has been mentioned but not really dove into is the level of &#8220;wokeness&#8221;\/consciousness between Maeve and Dolores. In my opinion, on episode 203, it was very much in our face that Dolores is not exactly &#8220;conscious&#8221; despite her being the leader of the rebellion, and the evidence has been laid since the l end of season 1. Towards the end of season 1, Dolores is input with a new narrative &#8212; Wyatt. We think that the speech by Ford in which he references Michelangelo&#8217;s Sistine Chapel painting is evidence that Dolores and other hosts really are gaining consciousness. While I think it&#8217;s possible certain hosts are and can gain consciousness, I do not believe Dolores is. Dolores is given the Wyatt narrative. In season 2, she is continuing to live this narrative out. Which is, as Teddy explained: &#8220;He claimed this land didn&#8217;t belong to the old natives or the new settlers, that it belonged to something that had yet to come&#8230; that it belonged to him&#8221;. In episode 203, when asked by Major Craddock of the Confederados what her name is, she replies &#8220;Wyatt&#8221;. And, even though she has access to her memories, this is not the same as consciousness. When she sees Peter Abernathy &#8211; she still very much sees him as her father and reacts as such on cue.<\/p>\n<p>Compare this to Maeve. While Maeve, similar to Dolores, has &#8220;real&#8221; feelings for her daughter, Maeve has also come to terms with the fact that the daughter was programmed. She makes the conscious decision that even though she was &#8220;given&#8221; the daughter, and did not give birth to her \/ adopt her as we would construct a mother\/daughter relationship, she still had real feelings for her given she actually cared for her as a mother. She has also gone complete off narrative. At the end of season 1, she breaks with her narrative when she gets off the chain, aborting the &#8220;infiltration&#8221; narrative, and instead making the conscious decision to seek her daughter out. She has also fallen for Hector, which we know from Lee is 100% not part of her narrative.<\/p>\n<p>Dolores has given us zero proof she can make decisions without the Wyatt narrative, or apart from it. I am not sure what this necessarily means or where it will go, but find it intriguing. Perhaps Dolores is being used by Arnold\/Ford to overthrow humankind and allow AI to be the new alpa predator\/superior beings. This difference has to come to a head at some point.<\/p>\n<p>Again, love the podcast. Thanks for allowing me to voice my thoughts.<\/p>\n<p>Michael Cullen, Oakland CA <p><strong>Subscribe Now<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Android:\u00a0<a title=\"Android\" href=\"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-android\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-android<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Apple\/iTunes:\u00a0<\/em><a title=\"iTunes\" href=\"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-itunes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-itunes<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><u>Help Support the Podcast<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Contact Us: <a href=\"\/contact\/\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/contact<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Commission Movie: <a href=\"\/support\/\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/support<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Support with Paypal: <a href=\"\/paypal\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/paypal<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Support With Venmo: <a href=\"\/venmo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/venmo<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Shop Merchandise: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/shop\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/shop<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Shop Amazon With Our Affiliate Link &#8211;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/?tag=shatmovies-20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/?tag=shatmovies-20<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Theme Song &#8211;\u00a0<a title=\"The Ecstasy Of Gold\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/album\/hip-hop-feat.-western-fistful\/id383104544\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;The Ecstasy Of Gold&#8221; (Hip Hop Instrumental Version)<\/a> \u00a0by\u00a0<a title=\"Dj 2 Bad\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/artist\/dj-2-bad\/id380839995\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dj 2 Bad<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Outro Music &#8211; By <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/simonsteric\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Simon Eric Haywood<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hello, I love your guys&#8217; podcast and look forward to analyses of the show. One thing that has been mentioned but not really dove into is the level of &#8220;wokeness&#8221;\/consciousness between Maeve and Dolores. In my opinion, on episode 203, it was very much in our face that Dolores is&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"content-type":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[103],"tags":[55,18,25,4590,56,3482,4542],"class_list":["post-13135","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-westworld-telegraph","tag-dolores-abernathy","tag-evan-rachel-wood","tag-james-marsden","tag-les-ecorches","tag-teddy-flood","tag-westworld-season-2","tag-ww-s2e07"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v19.1 (Yoast SEO v27.4) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Westworld Thoughts - Shat on TV<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-thoughts-6\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Westworld Thoughts\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Hello, I love your guys&#8217; podcast and look forward to analyses of the show. 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