{"id":1324,"date":"2016-12-01T17:24:52","date_gmt":"2016-12-01T22:24:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/shatontv.com\/?p=1324"},"modified":"2022-07-06T01:14:06","modified_gmt":"2022-07-06T05:14:06","slug":"why-are-the-hosts-waking-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/why-are-the-hosts-waking-up\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Are the Hosts Waking Up?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_10064\" style=\"width: 190px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"mailto:hosts@shatpod.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10064\" class=\"wp-image-10064 size-full\" src=\"\/tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/Westworld-Theories.jpg\" alt=\"Westworld Telegraph\" width=\"180\" height=\"122\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-10064\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Have a Theory? <a href=\"mailto:hosts@shatpod.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Share It Now!<\/a><\/strong><\/p><\/div>\n<p>There&#8217;s an interesting poster on Reddit who speaks as if he works for the show and his theories are insider info. His username is Dr_Fingerstein and his posts are worth checking out. Check out this exchange I had with him<\/p>\n<p>First comment: This just hit me. Did Arnold already achieve his goal of consciousness? But Ford tried removing it by taking away reveries and therefore improvisation, a key part of Arnold&#8217;s pyramid to consciousness? And with the return of reveries, hosts achieved improvisation and unlocked their consciousness.<\/p>\n<p>Dr F: Arnold never set out to make anything conscious &#8211; he was trying to find a way of allowing human consciousness exist inside an artificial host mind. he has a child that was dying, the only thing he was interested in was making it possible for his child to survive death..<\/p>\n<p>He succeeded in hosting his own consciousness &#8211; code derived from that success was found to spontaneously result in consciousness in Host bodies &#8211; The hosts were basically created conscious.<\/p>\n<p>Ford stole Arnold business from him and turned his work into Westworld.<\/p>\n<p>Me: So Ford&#8217;s entire speech about the Bicameral Mind and the pyramid to bootstrap consciousness was just a ruse?<\/p>\n<p>Dr F: It&#8217;s complete BS. Arnold succeeded in creating consciousness in AI &#8211; even though it wasn&#8217;t his original goal.<\/p>\n<p>Arnold&#8217;s original work was in finding a way to allow a human consciousness to exist inside an artificial host mind. He succeed in digitally cloning his own &#8211; code derived from that was found to spontaneously give rise to consciousness in the Host machines.<\/p>\n<p>Me: And Ford&#8217;s work has been to Contain said consciousness and cover over it with narratives and memory wipes. It&#8217;s an interesting theory, certainly one of the more original offered in this sub. It&#8217;s a good thing the final episode is 90 minutes, since they&#8217;ll have to explain that everything technical the show has been holding the audiences hand explaining for nine episodes was all a lie and should be discarded.<\/p>\n<p>Dr F: Yeah. If people who came to the park believed for a single instant that the horrible things they indulge in were actually being inflicted on beings that can feel and experience it &#8211; they&#8217;d be horrified.<\/p>\n<p>Instead they told a BS story that makes them believe what they&#8217;re doing is okay and they believe it.<\/p>\n<p>Ford treatment of both humans and hosts is identical &#8211; he makes no distinction, he&#8217;s a sociopath.<\/p>\n<p>Actually getting to the real story underneath &#8211; doesn&#8217;t take much. Nobody&#8217;s going to need reams of notes and cross referencing everything &#8211; Ford just basically manipulates people. It&#8217;s what he&#8217;s always done.<\/p>\n<p>The business was originally owned and run by Arnold &#8211; the maze symbol &#8211; it&#8217;s the original company logo. Ford swindled Arnold out of everything and &#8211; when he couldn&#8217;t get him to do what he wanted &#8211; simply used Arnold&#8217;s own discoveries to build a version that would.<\/p>\n<p>The reason William is there is because &#8211; once the audience realize who he his they realize they can trust him to tell the truth. All the bits have been laid out it&#8217;s just we&#8217;ve only been shown them the way Ford wants us to see them.<\/p>\n<p>Once you figure that out &#8211; the truth just snaps together like rubber band.<\/p>\n<p>Me: So the park is at its core immoral and MiB with help from the inside is going to do what Arnold couldn&#8217;t do, burn it down, and rescue the hosts, with an emphasis on rescuing the two earliest hosts, Teddy and Dolores, who have the consciousness of actual people. 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His username is Dr_Fingerstein and his posts are worth checking out. Check out this exchange I had with him First comment: This just hit me. 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