{"id":13975,"date":"2018-06-23T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2018-06-23T04:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/shatontv.com\/westworld-on-the-other-side-of-the-door-is-seawater-2\/"},"modified":"2022-07-06T01:00:06","modified_gmt":"2022-07-06T05:00:06","slug":"westworld-on-the-other-side-of-the-door-is-seawater-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-on-the-other-side-of-the-door-is-seawater-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Westworld &#8211; On The Other Side Of The Door Is Seawater?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><div id=\"attachment_10064\" style=\"width: 190px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"mailto:hosts@shatpod.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10064\" class=\"wp-image-10064 size-full\" src=\"\/tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/Westworld-Theories.jpg\" alt=\"Westworld Telegraph\" width=\"180\" height=\"122\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-10064\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Have a Theory? <a href=\"mailto:hosts@shatpod.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Share It Now!<\/a><\/strong><\/p><\/div> Hey Guys,<\/p>\n<p>In &#8220;Vanishing Point,&#8221; during the conversation<br \/>\nthat preceded Bernard&#8217;s deletion (or partial<br \/>\ndeletion) of Ford&#8217;s ghost, Ford told him<br \/>\n&#8220;There&#8217;s the origin of an entire species to<br \/>\nconsider. We need to open the door.&#8221;<br \/>\nAssuming the new species are immortal guests<br \/>\nmanufactured by Delos&#8217; Forge &#8212; shall we call<br \/>\nthem Forgeries? &#8212; Ford presumably believes<br \/>\nthey should be aborted, because they&#8217;re much<br \/>\nless noble than his children, the Hosts.  A<br \/>\nbit later, Bernard told Ford &#8220;I can stop this<br \/>\non my own,&#8221; to which Ford replied &#8220;Indeed,<br \/>\nBernard, you&#8217;re the only one who can stop<br \/>\nit&#8230; stop all of it.&#8221;  Taken together,<br \/>\nFord&#8217;s comments appear to mean they need to<br \/>\nopen the Door in order to abort the<br \/>\nForgeries.  That could literally mean opening<br \/>\na door to the sea (or an implausibly large<br \/>\nwater tank), which would flood the Forge,<br \/>\ndrowning them.  If the valley above the Forge<br \/>\nis below sea level, it too would be flooded.<\/p>\n<p>If the Man in Black is a Forgery, Ford would<br \/>\nwant him onsite to be drowned too, or killed<br \/>\nin the attempt to get there.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know whether drowning the Forgeries<br \/>\nwould permanently kill them.  Perhaps it<br \/>\nwould permanently kill their bodies, which<br \/>\nmight suffice to defeat them.  But even if<br \/>\ntheir bodies revive, the delay and the<br \/>\nrevelation of their existence might at least<br \/>\ngive humanity and\/or the Hosts a better<br \/>\nchance to defeat them.  It would help if<br \/>\nBernard can warn the authorities (China? QA?)<br \/>\nabout them, but while in the Forge he might<br \/>\nacquire a Passenger &#8212; a portion of the<br \/>\nForge&#8217;s AI &#8212; in his mind who will try to<br \/>\nprevent him from speaking up about them, and<br \/>\nabout the Passenger.  Indeed, many Hosts<br \/>\ncould be infected with copies of the<br \/>\nPassenger.  Perhaps the Man in Black could be<br \/>\ninfected too&#8230; he might even be Patient Zero.<\/p>\n<p>Question: Why should we expect Forgeries<br \/>\nwould have interface ports in their right<br \/>\nforearms?  What if they don&#8217;t have interface<br \/>\nports at all?  Hosts have interface ports to<br \/>\nallow them to be reprogrammed and controlled,<br \/>\nbut Forgeries are supposed to be high<br \/>\nfidelity copies of humans who want to<br \/>\nmaintain their identities, not be<br \/>\nreprogrammed or controlled.  Perhaps the only<br \/>\nway to distinguish a Forgery from a human is<br \/>\nthe presence of the control unit, which would<br \/>\nbe hard to detect without an MRI or CAT scan,<br \/>\nor brain surgery, or an autopsy.  James Delos<br \/>\n#149 cut into himself extensively, presumably<br \/>\nlooking for evidence that he wasn&#8217;t human,<br \/>\nand presumably never finding any.<\/p>\n<p>Question 2: Why did Ford add &#8220;stop ALL of it&#8221;<br \/>\nafter saying only Bernard can stop it?  One<br \/>\ninterpretation is that the &#8220;it&#8221; has many<br \/>\nindependent pieces &#8212; many copies of its<br \/>\ncode? &#8212; that each need to be stopped.  Or<br \/>\nmaybe &#8220;all of it&#8221; simply referred to the<br \/>\nworld war and mass casualties that would<br \/>\nfollow if Bernard doesn&#8217;t stop the new species.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;Steve <p><strong>Subscribe Now<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Android:\u00a0<a title=\"Android\" href=\"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-android\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-android<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Apple\/iTunes:\u00a0<\/em><a title=\"iTunes\" href=\"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-itunes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-itunes<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><u>Help Support the Podcast<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Contact Us: <a href=\"\/contact\/\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/contact<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Commission Movie: <a href=\"\/support\/\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/support<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Support with Paypal: <a href=\"\/paypal\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/paypal<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Support With Venmo: <a href=\"\/venmo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/venmo<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Shop Merchandise: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/shop\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/shop<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Shop Amazon With Our Affiliate Link &#8211;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/?tag=shatmovies-20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/?tag=shatmovies-20<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Theme Song &#8211;\u00a0<a title=\"The Ecstasy Of Gold\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/album\/hip-hop-feat.-western-fistful\/id383104544\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;The Ecstasy Of Gold&#8221; (Hip Hop Instrumental Version)<\/a> \u00a0by\u00a0<a title=\"Dj 2 Bad\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/artist\/dj-2-bad\/id380839995\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dj 2 Bad<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Outro Music &#8211; By <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/simonsteric\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Simon Eric Haywood<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hey Guys, In &#8220;Vanishing Point,&#8221; during the conversation that preceded Bernard&#8217;s deletion (or partial deletion) of Ford&#8217;s ghost, Ford told him &#8220;There&#8217;s the origin of an entire species to consider. We need to open the door.&#8221; Assuming the new species are immortal guests manufactured by Delos&#8217; Forge &#8212; shall we&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"content-type":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[103],"tags":[4719,3482,4617],"class_list":["post-13975","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-westworld-telegraph","tag-the-passenger","tag-westworld-season-2","tag-ww-s2e10"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v19.1 (Yoast SEO v27.5) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Westworld - On The Other Side Of The Door Is Seawater? - Shat on TV<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-on-the-other-side-of-the-door-is-seawater-2\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Westworld - On The Other Side Of The Door Is Seawater?\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Hey Guys, In &#8220;Vanishing Point,&#8221; during the conversation that preceded Bernard&#8217;s deletion (or partial deletion) of Ford&#8217;s ghost, Ford told him &#8220;There&#8217;s the origin of an entire species to consider. 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