{"id":1971,"date":"2016-12-08T14:07:42","date_gmt":"2016-12-08T19:07:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/shatontv.com\/?p=1971"},"modified":"2022-07-06T01:11:12","modified_gmt":"2022-07-06T05:11:12","slug":"arnold-ford-liberty","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/arnold-ford-liberty\/","title":{"rendered":"Arnold, Ford, and Liberty"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><div id=\"attachment_10064\" style=\"width: 190px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"mailto:hosts@shatpod.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10064\" class=\"wp-image-10064 size-full\" src=\"\/tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/Westworld-Theories.jpg\" alt=\"Westworld Telegraph\" width=\"180\" height=\"122\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-10064\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Have a Theory? <a href=\"mailto:hosts@shatpod.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Share It Now!<\/a><\/strong><\/p><\/div><br \/>\nDear Gentlemen,<\/p>\n<p>It appears that I was correct and suffering was at the heart of Westworld.<\/p>\n<p>My error was to assume that suffering was a bi-product of Ford&#8217;s creativity. Instead, it was deliberate.<\/p>\n<p>The result is an interesting distinction between Arnold&#8217;s motives and Ford&#8217;s. They are distillations of Isaiah Berlin&#8217;s two types of liberty.<\/p>\n<p>Negative liberty is freedom without interference or control from other people. In the show, Arnold tries to free the hosts from suffering. He gives them negative liberty.<\/p>\n<p>Positive liberty is the freedom to become something. Often this process can be painful and against the immediate wishes of the individual. Dr. Ford wants to grant this to the hosts. He makes them suffer in order that they might achieve it.<\/p>\n<p>Positive liberty is exemplified by Rousseau&#8217;s famous words in The Social Contract: &#8220;We shall force them to be free.&#8221; These words could easily be Dr. Ford&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p>Is suffering necessary for freedom?<\/p>\n<p>All the best,<br \/>\nGeorge C (Birkenhead, England)<p><strong>Subscribe Now<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Android:\u00a0<a title=\"Android\" href=\"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-android\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-android<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Apple\/iTunes:\u00a0<\/em><a title=\"iTunes\" href=\"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-itunes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-itunes<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><u>Help Support the Podcast<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Contact Us: <a href=\"\/contact\/\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/contact<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Commission Movie: <a href=\"\/support\/\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/support<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Support with Paypal: <a href=\"\/paypal\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/paypal<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Support With Venmo: <a href=\"\/venmo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/venmo<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Shop Merchandise: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/shop\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/shop<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Shop Amazon With Our Affiliate Link &#8211;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/?tag=shatmovies-20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/?tag=shatmovies-20<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Theme Song &#8211;\u00a0<a title=\"The Ecstasy Of Gold\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/album\/hip-hop-feat.-western-fistful\/id383104544\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;The Ecstasy Of Gold&#8221; (Hip Hop Instrumental Version)<\/a> \u00a0by\u00a0<a title=\"Dj 2 Bad\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/artist\/dj-2-bad\/id380839995\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dj 2 Bad<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Outro Music &#8211; By <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/simonsteric\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Simon Eric Haywood<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dear Gentlemen, It appears that I was correct and suffering was at the heart of Westworld. My error was to assume that suffering was a bi-product of Ford&#8217;s creativity. Instead, it was deliberate. The result is an interesting distinction between Arnold&#8217;s motives and Ford&#8217;s. They are distillations of Isaiah Berlin&#8217;s&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":34,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"content-type":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[103],"tags":[2483,4566,3075,3911],"class_list":["post-1971","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-westworld-telegraph","tag-telegraph-read","tag-the-bicameral-mind","tag-westworld-season-1","tag-ww-s1e10"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v19.1 (Yoast SEO v27.4) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Westworld: Arnold, Ford, And Liberty<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/arnold-ford-liberty\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Arnold, Ford, and Liberty\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Dear Gentlemen, It appears that I was correct and suffering was at the heart of Westworld. 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