{"id":21227,"date":"2020-03-25T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-03-25T04:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/shatontv.com\/big-d-confused-the-hell-out-of-me\/"},"modified":"2022-07-06T00:58:15","modified_gmt":"2022-07-06T04:58:15","slug":"big-d-confused-the-hell-out-of-me","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/big-d-confused-the-hell-out-of-me\/","title":{"rendered":"Big D confused the hell out of me"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><div id=\"attachment_10064\" style=\"width: 190px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"mailto:hosts@shatpod.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10064\" class=\"wp-image-10064 size-full\" src=\"\/tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/Westworld-Theories.jpg\" alt=\"Westworld Telegraph\" width=\"180\" height=\"122\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-10064\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Have a Theory? <a href=\"mailto:hosts@shatpod.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Share It Now!<\/a><\/strong><\/p><\/div> Hi Joe, Jerry and Sugar Kane,<\/p>\n<p>Listening to the deep dive for The Winter Line got very confusing when Big D reached for his tinfoil. I am going to have to listen again more carefully with a notepad. <\/p>\n<p>However the assertion that the timeline doesn&#8217;t seem to match up is interesting especially as Nolan and Joy have form for this. So I thought let&#8217;s rewatch both episodes and see if there&#8217;s anything. <\/p>\n<p>Immediately in the cold opening for episode one, there&#8217;s a line from Delores which stood out having D&#8217;s question in mind. <\/p>\n<p>Delores says &#8220;I&#8217;m the last of my kind&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>So a hypothesis would be to accept this as a true statement &#8211; meaning this takes place before Bernard is created as we see at the end of season two. <\/p>\n<p>What if what we are seeing is Delores&#8217;s essence in the cold opening but she is still inside the Charlotte bot? This could explain why she isn&#8217;t physically recognised by Gerald. It is the sort of slight of hand which the showrunners are capable of. <\/p>\n<p>This could mean that the &#8220;90 days after the incident&#8221; Charlotte is also still Delores. <\/p>\n<p>This would place the Delores and Liam Dempsey Jr interactions as being later in the linear storyline. <\/p>\n<p>It could also explain who was purchasing Delos to take it private. Incite. For Delores, the investment is a means to an end. For Incite, ownership would allow them to have access to Westworld and explain why they had Mauve. <\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t have all the pieces for this to sit that comfortably but it does give the story a bit more time to breathe. Otherwise we are experiencing a very compressed timeline which would be Game of Thrones type jet-packing. <\/p>\n<p>Probably wrong about most of this but nobody&#8217;s perfect.<\/p>\n<p>Really enjoyable deep dive as always.<\/p>\n<p>Cheers &#8211; John Lish <p><strong>Subscribe Now<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Android:\u00a0<a title=\"Android\" href=\"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-android\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-android<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Apple\/iTunes:\u00a0<\/em><a title=\"iTunes\" href=\"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-itunes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/westworld-itunes<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><u>Help Support the Podcast<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Contact Us: <a href=\"\/contact\/\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/contact<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Commission Movie: <a href=\"\/support\/\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/support<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Support with Paypal: <a href=\"\/paypal\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/paypal<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Support With Venmo: <a href=\"\/venmo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/venmo<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Shop Merchandise: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/shop\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.shatpod.com\/shop<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Shop Amazon With Our Affiliate Link &#8211;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/?tag=shatmovies-20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/?tag=shatmovies-20<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Theme Song &#8211;\u00a0<a title=\"The Ecstasy Of Gold\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/album\/hip-hop-feat.-western-fistful\/id383104544\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;The Ecstasy Of Gold&#8221; (Hip Hop Instrumental Version)<\/a> \u00a0by\u00a0<a title=\"Dj 2 Bad\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/artist\/dj-2-bad\/id380839995\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dj 2 Bad<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Outro Music &#8211; By <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/simonsteric\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Simon Eric Haywood<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi Joe, Jerry and Sugar Kane, Listening to the deep dive for The Winter Line got very confusing when Big D reached for his tinfoil. 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