{"id":26833,"date":"2022-07-06T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-07-06T04:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/the-tones\/"},"modified":"2022-07-06T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2022-07-06T04:00:00","slug":"the-tones","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/shatpod.com\/tv\/the-tones\/","title":{"rendered":"The Tones"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><div id=\"attachment_10064\" style=\"width: 190px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"mailto:hosts@shatpod.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10064\" class=\"wp-image-10064 size-full\" src=\"\/tv\/wp-content\/uploads\/Westworld-Theories.jpg\" alt=\"Westworld Telegraph\" width=\"180\" height=\"122\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-10064\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Have a Theory? <a href=\"mailto:hosts@shatpod.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Share It Now!<\/a><\/strong><\/p><\/div> Trying to keep this short, please dont read the whole thing verbatim, if theres anything here worth mentioning great, but I dont need to hide my head in shame for the longest telegraph every week. I also use you guys as an exercise to what I am thinking, so yea. <\/p>\n<p>Regarding &#8220;Stakes&#8221; if characters cant die:<br \/>\nJust overall, I am personally tired of the conversations about the stakes of the show. Its a show about the birth of a new race, after humans, and that race is made up of AI, which can live on forever (my Gameboy can still fire up after 20 something years). When the character &#8220;dies&#8221; unless its pearl is crushed, there is a way to get them back, thats all we need to know. Hector is dead, sorry Maeve, but his pearl was crushed, I will expect to never see Hector again. Dolores&#8217; pearl was not crushed after she fought with Rohoboam, so there will always be a chance a form of Dolores will come back. Also we know they can be built back by memory, but we havent been told that they can be rebuilt perfectly, because Dolores rebuilt Arnold perfectly, but that lead him to the same end, so she changed tiny parts to create Arnold, but thats another novel for another day. Just frankly, the stakes are the Pearls, if the pearl is at peril, then there is a chance we will lose a character, if the pearl is safe, they can be sure as shit to make a return time and time again. Short Answer:<br \/>\nIts AI, that can live forever so the only thing that matters are the Pearls, if they are safe the character is safe. <\/p>\n<p>Regarding Human William:<br \/>\nIs keeping Human William alive, a form of torture? Season 3 Caleb talks about the rat traps in the army, how if the water was low, the rat would succumb to the fact it was a goner and would drown, if the water was high but not high enough to escape, the rat swam and swam with the false hope it would make it out. It was a metaphor for Rohoboam, that humanity was stuck on false hope because the people that wanted a good life would never get that good life because they would never be offered the path to obtaining it. But now looking back, is Human William suffering the false hope that there is still a way to win? Does Hale get pleasure out of that torture? Also there is the connection between Hale and William, i.e. both were the reason their children died. Hale&#8217;s child dies because Human Hale was a shitty person, and didnt care about the danger she put her family in, when Host Hale betrays Serac, and he has her killed, the family died while her Host self had to live with the knowledge it was because of her actions they were dead. William is a shitty person, and convinced himself Westworld was a game only for him to play, and believed his daughter to be part of that game, and killed her. There is that weird connection of both having lost a child, and both being the reason the child is gone, its a stretch but Lisa Joy in the after the show episode said Hale kept William because she was &#8220;lonely&#8221; and I dont think that meant she had no one to talk to (although it kind of is like she has no one but copies of herself around to talk to) but rather was &#8220;lonely&#8221; aka misery loves company, shared grief and trauma, all that jazz. Short Answer:<br \/>\nHale can torture William in a multitude of ways, but she probably keeps him around because of the shared trauma of the death of a child, also she may still hope he can one day be the William she fell in love with many years ago. <\/p>\n<p>Regarding why open a new park:<br \/>\n(1) there is no Human Data, at least I am sticking with that Season 2 conclusion that Dolores deleted all human data prior to Bernard killing her and then bringing her back as Hale. If Hale wants to make fidelity copies of certain humans, she might need certain data points, so there is a chance the park is a way to recoup some of the data that was lost when Dolores deleted it all. (2) its the perfect place to replace humans, because the hosts are indistinguishable to humans, no one will question dead bodies (3) we dont have enough information to back this up but is there a chance the roles could be reversed in this park? Host can kill humans but humans can&#8217;t kill hosts? or (4) really really got nothing to back this up but is it a testing lab for the fly-controlling-humans a place to test this technology, before spreading it to every human, like a training park type of thing to make sure theyre good to go full time in the real world? Short Answer:<br \/>\nThey need some Human data to make fidelity copies of the Humans they are fully replacing with Hosts, they need a testing ground for their Fly-Controlled Humans, they possibly have a reversed Westworld wherein Hosts will kill Humans for sport, possibly a training ground for the Hosts to learn how to kill Humans, training ground for the Humans to be trained into complying Human-hosts <\/p>\n<p>Regarding the Tones:<br \/>\nThe tones and tower are linked together.<br \/>\nIn season 1, they use the song reveries to calm Maeve down after her daughter is killed by MiB (Ford says &#8220;an old trick from an old friend&#8221;). The song was supposed to calm and relax her, but because she was conscious (or close to it) she managed to break free of the song&#8217;s control and stab herself in the neck. In season 1, Peter Abernathy sees the photo of Juliette and his response is supposed to be &#8220;doesnt look like anything to me&#8221; but he begins to question the photo, because he was close to consciousness. So, if the song reveries controlled you, and you couldnt see the things that could hurt you, you were a fully functioning host. <\/p>\n<p>[image.png]<br \/>\nin the NYC pop up, some of the &#8220;hosts&#8221; when checking out turned the tablet for you to answer this question. If you answered Yes your profile was flagged https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@adventurous_anders\/video\/7110304856770039086 &#8220;Flagged for further observation&#8221;. Additionally as discussed, when the tones played the &#8220;hosts&#8221; would glitch. If a human sees the tower, they are no longer programmed<br \/>\nIf a human hears the tones, they are no longer programmed.<\/p>\n<p>Short Answer:<br \/>\nSeason 1:<br \/>\nControlled Host respond to musical cues<br \/>\nControlled Host cannot see that which will hurt them<br \/>\nConscious Hosts will not respond to music (Maeve still kills herself even with the music playing) Conscious Hosts will see what they are not supposed to (Peter Abernathy and the Juliette Photo) <\/p>\n<p>Season 4:<br \/>\nFly-Controlled Humans hum the tone<br \/>\nFly-Controlled Humans cannot see a giant looming tower<br \/>\nFly-Controlled Humans cannot hear the tone<br \/>\nUn-Controlled Humans can hear the tone<br \/>\nUn-Controlled Humans can see the tower<br \/>\nUn-Controlled Humans do not Hum the tone<\/p>\n<p>*so far can only confirm 1 human was humming after flies)<\/p>\n<p>Another thing on the Tones: you hear it in the background music during the first Scene in Episode 1, after the cartel man was infected with the flies (you hear it when he kills his family\/fellow cartel members, and when he walks the bridge to give William the keys to the Damn). You also can hear the tone very low when Christina is talking to the homeless man, and when shes in the mental hospital. You can also hear the tones when Maeve and Caleb are approaching the Human Mrs. Whitney. The background music is the tone to a certain degree, and like a dog whistle, every time I hear the very low &#8220;tones&#8221; I assume its a clue that we are looking at a now fly-controlled human. <\/p>\n<p>Goddamnit no good at keeping it short. 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