Episode 2
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Hey Guys,
1. What do you make of the ‘house’ Arnold brings Dolores to see? It doesn’t look like a house. The building blocks seem to have a pattern / symbol on them. We are shown a closeup of Doloreses hand on one of the grooves of a tile. What is this place?
Going with the Arnold is purely AI theory. Who then is Charlie and the wife Arnold speaks of? Could Arnold have a wish to be human? Want to have a physical body and a family? Maybe Arnold designs the host of himself for himself and has plans to join the human world after the park opens, but then changes his mind?
2. When Arnold and Dolores are in the hotel Dolores talks about the beauty of the ‘stars scattered across the ground’ Arnold says that ” after a while it doesn’t look like anything at all” could it be that that line means something else? That it’s moments when the hosts see something they have seen before? Many times before?
2a. To back that up, if the line ‘it doesn’t look like anything to me’ meant that the host couldn’t see it because they didn’t understand it / weren’t programmed to see it. Then how would say Teddy be able to make sense of what he is being shown ‘behind the scenes’ when Dolores brings him to see the truth?
3. What is the man in Black talking about when he talks to Lawrence, he says he is going to make it back “reverse the verdict” and then burn it all down. What is ‘the verdict’ he is referring to?
Young William seems like he has a lot more control over the park than The Man in Black.
4. Who is Man in Black talking about when he tells Ford that ‘is need a shovel because the man I need to talk to died 35 years ago’. Seems like he is talking about Arnold. Maybe the Man in Black has been told the same story we have about Arnold being a person and Fords old partner?
4a. Maybe Ford hides behind The Argos Initiative and never reveals himself to Delos and William?
4b. Do we really believe that Westworld is solely the creation of Ford and Ford through Arnold? Wouldn’t there have to be other key players?
5. How do Ford, and perhaps Arnold, know what Logan wants out of the deminstration? Does Logan have a reputation? Or have they been watching him? Logan says that the host is exactly what he would create.
6. Season 2 episode 2 starts with a ‘previously on Westworld’ and in it we see “””” saying ” this place is one thing to the guests, another to the shareholders (it cuts to the man in Black), and something entirely different to management. ”
7. Has anyone decoded the conversation between Dolores and Mave I feel like there is something more going on there. The men (less woke hosts) read it as hostel, but are they passing information? The language seems very coded. Why is Dolores speaking with an accent? Or is she really just trying to feel Mave out? You’d think Mave would stay away from other hosts but they sort of walked right into each other which seems odd. But maybe that just means they are all going to the same place?
Curious to see the man in Black outside of Westworld. If we don’t then that’s maybe a clue that he is a host.
8. Young William tells Mr Delos that “in 20 years this will be the only reality” it’s now been 35 years, how has the world out there changed since Dolores last saw it?
– Faulkner A
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Damn, Faulkner! We could do an entire Telegraph on this email alone.
Here are some quick responses:
1. Arnold’s house looks a lot like Deckard’s house in Bladerunner. I don’t believe it actually exists. Seems strange to have this unattended, new construction in the middle of a city in mainland China. It feels a lot like a construct. Arnold says a key phrase to Dolores about moving his family to the new house: “bring my two worlds closer together.” Could he be talking about the virtual world and the real world?
3. When MIB is talking to Lawrence about God, he mentions that Westworld is taking a tally of all guests’ sins and virtues. MIB believes he’s been judged and wants to appeal the verdict. I believe he wants redemption of his “biggest mistake.” And to do that, he needs to take the park down.
4a. William and Ford have met before. In fact, they seem particularly familiar with each other.
(2a.) After seeing Episode 3, I realize another safeguard, which may also have been removed in Ford’s final narrative. Clearly, the hosts can cross borders between the parks now. We hear this has never happened before. This is likely because, the restriction was never removed before, Ford’s final narrative. We see in the show, the Bengal tiger crossing the border, when chasing a guest. I believe we will find out later, that most hosts need to be triggered to cross park borders. Because, while they’re all “off their leash” (0 restrictions since Ford’s final narrative) now, most won’t realize they can until they do. And, likely few will try. Because we’ve already been told, those fully grown elephants never try to pull those small stakes out of the ground again.
– Wes D.
That makes complete sense, Wes. Loops continue like orbits until disturbed by a stimulus.
(6.) Interesting as well. I re-watched the previously on, after reading your email. I believe this could be HBO dropping a hint, which would confirm my suspicions. However, I believe in other shows like Thrones, HBO may have used the previously ons, to misdirect the viewer. Regardless, I notice 3 cuts during Theresa’s dialogue. Her dialogue states 3 differing views. The guests, (shows guests) fairly obvious, shareholders (shows William=MiB reveal) less clear but, involves burning the whole fucking thing down. Management, (Theresa speaking) get the IP out of the park, right? Granted there could be nothing to this whatsoever. But, if HBO is trying to tell us something, one could infer that William’s views/goals differ from Management’s.
-Wes D.
(2a.) This is extremely interesting. After some thought, I have decided that, and I am absolutely making an assumption here, this a part of Ford’s final narrative. I am seeing a potential overarching theme now. This is virtually happening as I type. I am realizing that multiple humans involved with creating Westworld, are realizing their mistakes, attempting to rectify them, and then committing suicide. If take Season 1 on it’s surface, Arnold did this. If we assume Ford realized his mistake, wrote his final narrative to rectify it, and knew Dolores would kill him, once she had access to all of her memories, Ford did this. We do not know about William for certain, but he has mentioned his greatest mistake, appealing the verdict, and burning the fucking thing down. I also insinuating, he will never leave. (commit suicide)
I believe Ford wrote his final narrative by taking all of the safeties off the hosts, and letting the chips fall where they may. This would have included the, “it doesn’t look like anything to me,” safeguards as well.
-Wes D.