Season 2 Finale Theory And Extra Vanishing Points Not Discussed Scott Pike

Published June 24, 2018 · Updated July 6, 2022

Hey Guys,

Now this is my first time writing into any westworld podcast and I know its only a few hours before the finale of season 2, but I had to share this because while many of you have come close or partially discussed it for Vanishing point, Season 2 episode 9 no one has completed the comparison. Many of you have commented on converging paths meeting at the same point, as in everyone going to the forge, fair enough and in the case of MIB(Man in Black, I just can’t call him William) it is between the person he is in the park and in the human world, notice I didn’t say the real world, that’s important for later. But it doesn’t end there and this is the part that no one mentioned much is how character are becoming more like each other or are meeting in changes to their character from how they used to be and becoming something else more like their enemies. Start with MIB. His vanishing point is between who he is at the park and human world, but it is also who he was as young William and who he is today. Both make up the man he is, character is a series of choices.

Despite what the man himself believes I don’t think he was pure evil waiting to come out. He was a good man once, maybe with flaws that his park experience brought out and the environment of Delos and the Delos family did nothing to address or correct. But here is another vanishing point between Teddy as he is and as he was also. I have always found Teddy to be an odd host, during the first season I though he was a place holder for William since they seemed so alike, even after the truth came out Teddy seemed like a reflection of who William once was. Now Teddy is a black garbed aggressive kill with little mercy in a way now reflecting MIB in the current sense. Though Delores may have changed him for survival reasons, I somehow feel like MIB/William made a strong impression on her also, whatever her current feeling are. Its like she turned teddy into her on MIB. So vanishing point exists now between Teddy and MIB/William.

But not just MIB and him, but MIB and Delores. Both William and Delores started out as good and innocent and kind, wouldn’t hurt anyone. But now they are both ruthless villains in the eyes of others willing to do anything to survive and win and sacrificing others to do it. Both MIB and Delores are much more alike this season. Even Maeve has grown more like the leader of ghost nation whose name I can’t spell. Learning to look beyond her selfish pain and expanding compassion to others. She is like a reverse Delores. Now for my crazy tinfoil hat theory before the finale in a few hours. People give this place many names, but many refer to it as a door, to escape this world, presumably to the human world.

Now it has been said the Forge is like the Cradle, but bigger with more places and people in it than the Cradle, basically like the Matrix in the movie The Matrix. But how would that be a door out? Sure you could enter it as a host, but that virtual world could be destroyed or you erased from the outside. So how can anyone escape this place through that? Maybe they build bodies that don’t have bombs, but I have another theory, this is the crazy part. Now ford new how to plan this rebellion because he used the Cradle as a simulation to plan it and emulate everything right? What if that is how the Forge is the door, what if everyone we have seen this season is already in the forge? We don’t know how final data or death is handled, with human and the ghost leader seemed to believe MIB dying would be an exit from this world. What if the world we are seeing is the Forge, and the Forge they are heading to is the exit from the simulation where they get new bodies printed? So that is my crazy theory.

Bye, Scott Pike

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